Tuesday, 03 January 2017
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I wanted to ask this question because we know Master Samael talks about this. We know a number of Master that he mentions that have the Elixir of Youth like Count Saint Germain and Nicolas Flamel. When talking about this subject he is not talking about the immortality of the soul, but the physical body. Obviously a differentiation needs to be made between the two since immortality could be metaphorical and symbolic for something spiritual. He has also made it abundantly clear how they have bodies alive which are not even thousand but millions of years old.

My question is, have I understood correctly that we are talking about the physical body here?

And second question is, has anybody ever achieved this again in the 20th/21st century?

Also, is this something that any Gnostic student could hope to achieve, or is it impossible?
5 years ago
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Many masters resurrect with the body of liberation (see Igneous Rose below), so as to manifest themselves at will within the physical plane. This is the immortal, Christified physical/etheric body of the resurrected masters.

There are few who are doing it today, although anyone can achieve this by the will of God.
O People, if you should be in doubt about the Resurrection [with the body of liberation, the libas al-taqwa: the garments of reverence or solar bodies], then consider that indeed, We created you from dust, [the archetypes of the soul and spirit within your אדמה adamah, your ground, earth, physicality] then from a sperm-drop [י iod or Shakti potential during sexual magic], then from a clinging clot [the developing ن Nun / ovum, whereby the diacritical mark can signify the ovum impregnated by the curved line of the sperm) and then from a lump of flesh, formed and unformed [in the shape of the Hebrew ו Vav or Arabic و waw, the kundalini rising up the ו Vav / Waw و spine to form the solar bodies or flesh that does not belong to the fornicating Adam]- that We may show you [your development through initiation]. And We settle in the wombs [of Devi Kundalini] whom We will for a specified term [to conquer the ordeals of fire, air, water, and earth], then We bring you out [in the second birth] as a child [of Tiphrereth: the developed human soul], and then We develop you that you may reach your time of maturity [as a solar adept on the Second Mountain]. And among you is he who is taken in early death [of the ego, since his path is more intense and radical], and among you is he who is returned to the most decrepit old age so that he knows, after once having knowledge [of alchemy, but failing to achieve mystical death, gains] nothing. And you see the earth [Malkuth] barren [sterile from fornication], but when We send down upon it rain [of transmuted Akashic waters], it quivers and swells and grows something of every beautiful kind [the virtues of the soul]. -Al-Hajj 5-6

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

5 years ago
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#13329
Accepted Answer
Many masters resurrect with the body of liberation (see Igneous Rose below), so as to manifest themselves at will within the physical plane. This is the immortal, Christified physical/etheric body of the resurrected masters.

There are few who are doing it today, although anyone can achieve this by the will of God.
O People, if you should be in doubt about the Resurrection [with the body of liberation, the libas al-taqwa: the garments of reverence or solar bodies], then consider that indeed, We created you from dust, [the archetypes of the soul and spirit within your אדמה adamah, your ground, earth, physicality] then from a sperm-drop [י iod or Shakti potential during sexual magic], then from a clinging clot [the developing ن Nun / ovum, whereby the diacritical mark can signify the ovum impregnated by the curved line of the sperm) and then from a lump of flesh, formed and unformed [in the shape of the Hebrew ו Vav or Arabic و waw, the kundalini rising up the ו Vav / Waw و spine to form the solar bodies or flesh that does not belong to the fornicating Adam]- that We may show you [your development through initiation]. And We settle in the wombs [of Devi Kundalini] whom We will for a specified term [to conquer the ordeals of fire, air, water, and earth], then We bring you out [in the second birth] as a child [of Tiphrereth: the developed human soul], and then We develop you that you may reach your time of maturity [as a solar adept on the Second Mountain]. And among you is he who is taken in early death [of the ego, since his path is more intense and radical], and among you is he who is returned to the most decrepit old age so that he knows, after once having knowledge [of alchemy, but failing to achieve mystical death, gains] nothing. And you see the earth [Malkuth] barren [sterile from fornication], but when We send down upon it rain [of transmuted Akashic waters], it quivers and swells and grows something of every beautiful kind [the virtues of the soul]. -Al-Hajj 5-6

For thirty years I sought God. But when I looked carefully I found that in reality God was the seeker and I the sought. -Bayazid al-Bastami

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