Sunday, 22 May 2016
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During the lecture "Involution, Evolution, Devolution, Revolution" the speaker mentioned that there are some exceptions to this "wave" of humanity crashing against the rocks. This was at the end of the question and answer session. The speaker inferred that everyone is on their last or second-to-last [or third-to-last?] lifetime except these exceptions. Could the speaker or someone else elaborate? Thank you.
6 years ago
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There are many potential exceptions, depending upon the karma of the individuals. Some earn extra existences, while others earn fewer. Some, through intense sacrifice for others and deep psychological change, can also earn more time. Finally, those who create the solar bodies can also escape this situation.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

6 years ago
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#11845
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There are many potential exceptions, depending upon the karma of the individuals. Some earn extra existences, while others earn fewer. Some, through intense sacrifice for others and deep psychological change, can also earn more time. Finally, those who create the solar bodies can also escape this situation.

"Do not worry; cultivate the habit of being happy." - Samael Aun Weor

6 years ago
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#11852
You can escape the abyss by creating the solar bodies? Master Samael said the only absolute requirement to save our souls from the abyss and make it into the exodus is to have 50% liberated consciousness.
6 years ago
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#11853
The ego belongs to the abyss. The only way to be complete liberated from the abyss is to eradicate 100% of the ego.

That is not what this discussion is about. Here, we are discussing what will happen when this race completes its 108 lifetimes.

"Once the cycle of 108 physical existences that are assigned to every soul upon the face of the Earth concludes, it is unquestionable that we descend with the devolving wave [into submerged devolution in the abyss], even if we are bestowed with beautiful virtues. [...]

In these moments comes into my memory the case of a friend who passed away some years ago. He was a convinced Gnostic, however he did not manage to create his existential bodies of the Being. This I was able to verify within the region of the dead, within Limbo. While being out of my physical body, I found him. He had a gigantic appearance, and his spectral face was indeed a face from a pantheon or cemetery.

I wandered around with him through different places, through diverse streets of a city, which, unquestionably, was in Limbo, beneath this tridimensional region of Euclid.

“You are dead,” I told him.

“What? That is impossible! I am alive,” was his answer. When strolling near a regal mansion, I took him inside so that he could see himself in a mirror. When he followed my suggestion, I saw him very much astounded. Then, I continued, telling him, “Try to hover by executing a little jump, thus, in this way, you will be convinced for yourself that you are deceased...”

Thus, that phantom obeyed and tried to fly, but instead of ascending like the birds, I saw him precipitating himself downward, headlong. In those moments, he assumed different animalistic figures. “You now have the shape of a horse, of a dog, of a cat, a tiger,” thus, I described to him his different animalistic aspects as they stood out. Indeed, such a phantom was made up of a conjunction of quarrelsome and noisy “I’s” that were interpenetrating each other without integration. But my efforts were useless. That deceased person did not understand me. He was already an dweller of the region of the dead, a sum of “I’s” personifying psychological defects.

Thus, despite the fact that this friend had known Gnosis, he had not achieved the fabrication of his Astral body. All that I had before my sight was a mass of phantoms, which gave the impression or appearance of a personality. " —Samael Aun Weor, Hell, the Devil, and Karma


One can escape the "crash of the wave" if one has at least the solar astral body created. How? This does not give physical immortality, but it does give us a chance to continue working in the internal worlds:

"...when we have given birth to the Astral, Christic Body, we continue after death living in that sidereal body. Then we are really immortal. Those who possess the Christified Astral Body find themselves in a conscious state after death. [...]

"When the legitimate Astral Body is born, we become immortal in the world of 24 laws (the lunar world).

"When the authentic Mental Body is born, we immortalize ourselves in the world of 12 laws (the world of Mercury or of the Mind).

"When the true Causal vehicle is born, we acquire immortality in the world of 6 laws (the Causal World or world of Venus). We incarnate our human soul when we reach this height. Thus, we become true human beings." —Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect Matrimony


The physical body is going to die no matter what. That is not at issue. What matters is retaining consciousness of oneself even after death. With the astral body awakened, one can continue working in the internal worlds.
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