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  Sunday, 27 March 2016
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26. The black magic of Simon the Magician is that he remained looking towards the past, and he did not want to accept Christ or the new Christic current.
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39. However, he fell into black magic because he continued to look into the past, and he did not want to accept Christ.


How does it become black magic when one looks towards the past?
What was the “looking into the past” of Simon?
Is it not helpful to look back into the past in an effort to learn from our mistakes?
Don’t we do this in our daily retrospective?
7 years ago
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#11576
Special thanks to you, Wingless Eagle. What you wrote makes much sense. These were the words I needed for understanding. Sometimes, simple words can do more than exalted quotations from a remote past – bible or works by masters of the old. Those have been written for ears of the past. Now is a different time.

The heart can easily understand the debilitating impact of looking backwards and it would not need any quotation. But here often we are given so many references and sometimes when you look them up they seem to not be the same. They appear to be portrayed as. I say appear because of limited view. I simply do not like assertion or distortion, this is where my mind stops and says, wait a moment … and starts fighting, but it does so for truth, not war. It wants to know: Can I trust? I mean, a doctrine presented via the internet? :o

I am much grateful for your response. Thank you for compassionate words. Now I know how to carry on with the future, by nourishing from the compost of past experiences but not identifying with them. I hope you are fine and thanks again for staying up late at night to write a post for me. Find your wings soon, Eagle. Enjoy this day!
7 years ago
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#11573
Thank you. This is instructive enough as it shows how easily even great minds can be manipulated.
Please do not stay too long with this subject matter. I think I now understood the point of not remaining orientated towards the past. Please, answer the many, many questions of other forum users who are with greater problems than me.
7 years ago
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#11572
Simon the Sorcerer or Simon the Magician, in Latin Simon Magus, (Greek Σίμων ὁ μάγος) was a Samaritan Sorcerer; the Sorcerers that follow Simon Magus are called: Simoniacs, “Altri per simonia” another Simony.

But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one. To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.- Acts 8: 9, 10, 11

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

7 years ago
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#11570
Dear Shamir,
I just wanted to help you clarify what instructor Lion of Judah is trying to tell you about looking into the past and why it is black magic. Why it makes people to disconnect with Christ.
It is all about feeding your ego. The things such as nostalgia or constantly living with your mind in the past makes your decisions and "vision" blurry, because you see through your ego of the past, you identify yourself with the past and with the ego's that pull you into the past. Meaning you can't be here and now. Looking into past is not the same as retrospection. In retrospection exercises you try to be not identified with your mind and ego as much as you can.
If you create your future by identifying yourself with the past (looking back/looking into past) you fall to black magic, because you create the same karma as it was in the past. If you are not looking back, being here and now then you create your future by living in the present moment, here and now. That is white magic. We could say that black magic and white magic are wide statements for this situation. And yes, they are. But overall everything you do can be classified into the black and white magic, because when you work in the esoteric work everything you do is magic. The statement "looking into the past" tells by itself that you are enclosed with the past.
It is really simple. If you are identified with the past. If your mind is constantly in the condition of the past, always wandering in the past, living in the past and etc. makes you like a salt statue (the one that Bible speaks about one, were people would become salt statues if they look back). You just become stagnant in the practices. And then you start to go the wrong way, meaning that you fall to black magic even without noticing it. Because how can you? You can't, your vision is blurred, you are in the past with your mind and emotions, embodied with it.
Retrospection is very different from looking into the past. In retrospection you penetrate into the past by not identifying with it and being here and now.
Just think with your heart, not mind :)
I hope this will help at least a bit.
Best wishes,
Wingless Eagle.
7 years ago
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#11567
Now I notice that you edited your previous post after reading my last comment, by adding this quote:

In Dante's Inferno, he described Simon the Magician and all the sorcerers that he denominated as Simoniacs as walking in the inferno with their heads facing backwards. - Samael Aun Weor


This is simply not true. Read the Divine Comedy and you will see yourself.

Also you changed the footnote to: „all the Simoniac sorcerers XX” -- this is wrong. In Canto XX there is no mention of Simoniacs.
7 years ago
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#11566
That quote does not refer to the Simoniacs.
Only in Canto XIX the third chasm, Dante speaks against Simony.

Canto XIX:
“The two themes of religion and divine retribution collide in this chasm where the Simonists reside. Simonists, named after Simon the Magus, are souls who sold ecclesiastic favors and offices for their own personal wealth. These sinners, the Simonists, are upside-down in holes resembling baptismal fonts, illustrating that their sin debased their office, and their feet are on fire, most likely lit by the oil of the last rites.”


Canto XX – where your recent picture and quote are taken from – depicts the fourth chasm where the seers and sorcerers are punished. This is a different story that has nothing to do with Simon or the Simonists.

Canto XX:
“In keeping with Dante's theme of Divine Retribution, the Fortune Tellers and Diviners have their heads on backwards and their eyes are full of tears. These are the souls who, on Earth, tried to see too far ahead of them, and thus will spend eternity forever looking behind with blurred vision.”

(Roberts, James L., and Nikki Moustaki. CliffsNotes on The Divine Comedy: Inferno)
7 years ago
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#11563
In Dante's Inferno, he described Simon the Magician and all the sorcerers that he denominated as Simoniacs as walking in the inferno with their heads facing backwards. - Samael Aun Weor

http://www.gnosticteachings.org/images/stories/alchemy/Simoniacs.jpg
As lower down my sight descended on them,
Wondrously each one seemed to be distorted
From chin to the beginning of the chest;

For towards the reins the countenance was turned,
And backward it behoved them to advance,
As to look forward had been taken from them.

- Inferno: Simon Magus Canto XIX & all the Simoniac sorcerers XX

Edited

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

7 years ago
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#11561
Understood. Thank you.

However I would like to point out that in the Divine Comedy by Dante Alighieri I can’t find any mention of the Simoniacs looking backwards. Their fatal error seems to consist in avarice and buying their God with gold and silver. Like Simon when he offered money to Peter and John. That is why the bodies of those Simoniacs are plunged upside down into holes with only the burning soles of their feet protruding from the ground.

“O Simon Magus, O wretched followers, you who the things of God, that should be brides of goodness, rapaciously adulterate for gold and for silver.”


This is all I can find there in regards to Simon and the Simoniacs. It comes across as a denunciation of the corrupt clergy. The term Simony generally means the corrupt purchase of spiritual benefices and is nowadays used for trafficking for money in spiritual things.

I mention this because you used an illustration by Gustave Doré from the Divine Comedy, and Samael Aun Weor, too, backed his assertions with Dante’s masterpiece -- in the link I referenced initially.
7 years ago
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#11554
Is this to say that if we attach our identity and religion to any given shape or ritual that has been taught to humanity in the past, while we miss to see the new era beginning here and now which brings new laws and ethics from the Divine spheres, then our religion that binds us to the past thus becomes black?



Then answered Jesus and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father do: for what things soever he does, these also does the Son likewise.
For the Father loves the Son, and show him all things that himself does: and he will show him greater works than these, that you may marvel.
For as the Father raises up the dead, and quickened them; even so the Son quickened whom he will.
For the Father judges no man, but has committed all judgment unto the Son: That all men should honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He that honors not the Son honors not the Father which has sent him.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that hears my word, and believes on him that sent me, has everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
For as the Father has life in himself; so has he given to the Son to have life in himself; And has given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which has sent me.
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
There is another that bears witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesses of me is true.
You sent unto John, and he bear witness unto the truth.
But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that you might be saved.
He was a burning and a shining light: and you were willing for a season to rejoice in his light.
But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father has given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father has sent me.
And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. You have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
And you have not his word abiding in you: for whom he has sent, him you believe not.
Search the scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that you might have life.
I receive not honor from men.
But I know you, that you have not the love of God in you.
I am come in my Father's name, and you receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him you will receive.
How can you believe, which receive honor one of another, and seek not the honor that comes from God only?
Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuses you, even Moses, in whom you trust.
For had you believed Moses, you would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
But if you believe not his writings, how shall you believe my words? - John 5: 19-47



If we attach our identity and religious work to the past hierarchies of any given shape or ritual that has been taught to humanity in the past, while we miss to see the new hierarchies here and now which brings new laws and ethics from the Divine spheres, then our religious work that binds us to the past becomes black! Because initiation are given and ordeals are placed in the internal planes by the present hierarchies here and now.

Behold, the rituals of the old times are black. This is why the evil ones be cast away and the good ones be purged by the (new) Prophet. Then shall this science go aright.

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

7 years ago
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#11553
Is this to say that if we attach our identity and religion to any given shape or ritual that has been taught to humanity in the past, while we miss to see the new era beginning here and now which brings new laws and ethics from the Divine spheres, then our religion that binds us to the past thus becomes black?

I incarnate dominating my Prakriti (meaning my wife)


Actually, Krishna says „dominating my Prakriti”, meaning my nature. He incarnates dominating his nature. To interpret it as “my wife” in this context will potentially lead to men dominating their wives, since they may believe this is the Divine Law and actually have done so for ages. Although Nature is called the wife of God, it is just a symbolic analogy as there is nothing anthropomorphic behind this.
7 years ago
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#11544
http://www.gnosticteachings.org/images/stories/alchemy/Simonaics2.jpg

The fallen Bodhisattvas see everything upside-down or backwards.
Their mind is identified with the hierchies of the past, they do not obey the hierchies of the present.

The black magic of Simon the Magician is that he remained looking towards the past, and he did not want to accept Christ or the new Christic current. This is a rebellion against the divine hierarchy and, in fact, Simon the Magician remains situated in the worlds of black magic. The mind is the most dangerous animal of the alchemist. If Simon Magus had dominated the mind with the whip of willpower, he would not have fallen into the abyss. The alchemist who lets himself be carried away by the reasoning of his mind's pride fails in the Great Work and falls into the abyss. The alchemist must be very humble before the divine hierarchies in order not to fail in the Great Work. The mind must become as a humble and simple child. The mind must humiliate itself before the divine hierarchies. = Samael Aun Weor


“The supreme personality of God said: Many, many incarnations both you a I have passed. I can remember all of them, but you cannot, O subduer of the enemy!

“Although I am unborn and My transcendental body never deteriorates, and although I am the Lord of all sentient beings, I incarnate dominating my Prakriti (meaning my wife) and appear in my original transcendental form; serving my self of my own maya.

“Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion – at that time I descent Myself.

“To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of Religion, I advent Myself millennium after millennium.

“One who knows the transcendental nature of my (present) appearance and activities does not, upon leaving the body, take his birth again in this material world, but attains My eternal abode, O Arjuna!”


Christ is the multiple perfect unity, but we have to know how to obey the Gods of Karma, Geburah, the Law.

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

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