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i have been reading that karmaduro causes cancer and other illnesses in order for non negotiable karma to be paid. Samael Aun Weor died of cancer. Did he have karmaduro to pay?
6 years ago
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The term is not Karmaduro but KAMADURO

(Sanskrit: Kama, "desire"; Duro from Dur, "bad" or "difficult," from Duristha – "very bad, difficult, or wicked"; Duro, "great crime or wickedness.") (But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it. - Genesis 2: 17).

In the human organism, Kamaduro corresponds to the uncontrolled sexual fire, the uncontrolled creative energy of Shiva (the Holy Spirit) brought into action by means of animal desire and which culminates in the emission of the sexual fiery fluid through the orgasm or sexual spasm.

Kamaduro originates the decomposition of the sexual creative energy through which Kama (desire) is expressed as karmic poison - death, in other words - as a lustful Duro (very bad), a destructive, uncontrollable force (for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. - Genesis 2: 17




Resurrection or the Second Mountain, the Kabbalistic World of Yetzirah, the World of Formation.

I returned into the Ninth Heaven [of Yetzirah] or crystalline region of Neptune. In this extraordinary canto, we find Dante’s digressive diatribe against evil preachers...

Posteriorly, I had to appear before [Binah] the “Third Logos,” “Shiva,” my real Being, my own “Super-individuality,” Samael Himself...

Then, the Blessed One assumed a distinct figure, different from my own figure, as if He were a stranger. He had the aspect of a very respectable gentleman...

The Venerable One asked me to perform a chiromantic study on the lines of His hand...

The line of Saturn on His omnipotent dexterous hand looked very straight, astonishing, and marvellous to me.

Nonetheless, one place of the line appeared to me as if it was interrupted, damaged, broken...

“Sir! You have had some struggles, some sufferings...”

“You are mistaken. I am a very lucky man, I always do very well...”

“Well... What happens is that I see a small damage on the line of Saturn...”

“Go, and measure that line well: at what age do you see that damage?”

“Sir!... Between the age of fifty three (53) and sixty-one (61) you had a hard epoch...”

“Ah!... that is in the beginning... but, then after, how do you see it? Eight years will pass very soon, and then... the triumph which is awaiting you...”

When concluding with this study, the Venerable One stood and said: “I like these Chiromantic studies, but only sporadically. My spouse (Devi Kundalini) also likes it, and eventually I will bring her. Ah!, but I have to pay you for your labor. Wait here for me, I will return to pay you...”

The Blessed One withdrew and I remained waiting for Him... Far away, I saw two daughters of mine; they are presently adults, however they still looked little to me. I was a little bit concerned about them and so I called them...

It is indubitable that in that time of my present existence I was the mentioned fifty-three (53) years of age... I had seen on the hand of the Blessed One my own future...

Evidently, the already granted Eight Initiations [of the First Mountain] had to be qualified, which is a very hard job, one year for each Initiation...

This is what it is to vividly experience the whole book of the Patriarch Job in eight years, to pay the tithe to Neptune before the Resurrection...

The book of Job is a complete representation of the ancient initiation and of the people who presided over the “magna ceremony.”

The neophyte is shown in this book. He is deprived of everything, even of his own sons, and is afflicted by [kamaduro] an impure sickness.

His wife anguishes him by mocking the trust which he puts in a God who treats him in such a way. His three friends Eliphas, Bildad, and Zophar torment him when they believably judge him to be impious and certainly worthy of that punishment...

Job then calls for a champion, a liberator, because he knows that this Shiva is eternal, and will redeem him from the slavery of the Earth (by means of the intimate Resurrection) by restoring his flesh [physical body].

Job, while under divine permission, is tormented, deprived, sick under the cruel action of those malignant beings that Aristophanes called the “black birds.” Saint Paul called them the “black powers of the air.” The church called them “demons.” Theosophy and Kabbalah calls them “elementaries,” etc., etc., etc...

Nonetheless, Job is just, and he utters the theme of his own justification before such rigors of destiny, and finally conquers with the sacred IT of the crucifixion of his ulcerated flesh. Jehovah (the interior BINAH Iod-Heve of each person) permits the Healer Angels, or Jinns (whose classic leader, as found in books such as the book of Tobias, is the Archangel Raphael), to approach him...

One night, after a cosmic festivity which was celebrated in my honour for having been well qualified in the First Initiation, I was precisely instructed...

“You must pay the crime for having assassinated the God Mercury,” was said unto me...
“Forgive me this Karma...”

“This Karma is unforgivable [kamaduro], and can only be paid by working with the Moon.”

Then, I saw how in each labor the Moon [Parvati] would more and more approach the planet Mercury, until finally mixing with it...


Parvata is one of the Sanskrit words for "mountain"; "Parvati" derives her name from being the daughter of king Himavan (also called Himavat, Parvat) and mother Mena. King Parvat (Shiva-Binah) is considered lord of the mountains and the personification of the Himalayas; Parvati implies "she of the mountain" A crescent moon "symbol of Intelligence - Binah" is sometimes included near the head of Parvati.



My innermost real Being, the God Mercury, Shiva, [Binah] my Monad, while approaching me, told me, “You must wear the boots of the God Mercury.” He then put such boots on my
feet...

The instant in which the great Hierophant of the temple showed me a sports hall was sensational and extraordinary for me...

“Look!” he told me, “You converted the Temple of Mercury into a sports hall...”

Certainly, we all assassinated Hiram (the God Mercury) when we ate of the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. That is why we were warned: “The day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

Posteriorly, the path became frightfully difficult, and I had to suffer intensely...

It is obvious that the path of the razor’s edge is absolutely sexual; you know this...

“My son! You have to patiently suffer the consequences of your errors,” my Divine Mother Kundalini uttered...

On another night, my Mother, filled with pain, exclaimed with a great voice, “My son! You have exchanged me for other women, there, in the physical world...”

“That was the past, Mother of mine, now I do not exchange you for anyone...”

“You have exchanged me for other women.”

“The past is the past, what matters is the present; I live from instant to instant, and I do wrong when arguing with you...”

“Past, present, or future, you are the same one...”

“You are right, Mother of mine...”

Then, how could I deny that I had converted the Temple of Mercury [Binah] into a sport hall? - The Three Mountains by Samael Aun Weor


Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that Jehovah Elohim made the earth and the heavens,
And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for Jehovah Elohim had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

And [in the Eighth Day] Jehovah Elohim formed Adam of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and Adam became a living soul.

And Jehovah Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put Adam whom he had formed. - Genesis 2: 1-8

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

6 years ago
·
#11323
Accepted Answer
The term is not Karmaduro but KAMADURO

(Sanskrit: Kama, "desire"; Duro from Dur, "bad" or "difficult," from Duristha – "very bad, difficult, or wicked"; Duro, "great crime or wickedness.") (But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it. - Genesis 2: 17).

In the human organism, Kamaduro corresponds to the uncontrolled sexual fire, the uncontrolled creative energy of Shiva (the Holy Spirit) brought into action by means of animal desire and which culminates in the emission of the sexual fiery fluid through the orgasm or sexual spasm.

Kamaduro originates the decomposition of the sexual creative energy through which Kama (desire) is expressed as karmic poison - death, in other words - as a lustful Duro (very bad), a destructive, uncontrollable force (for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. - Genesis 2: 17




Resurrection or the Second Mountain, the Kabbalistic World of Yetzirah, the World of Formation.

I returned into the Ninth Heaven [of Yetzirah] or crystalline region of Neptune. In this extraordinary canto, we find Dante’s digressive diatribe against evil preachers...

Posteriorly, I had to appear before [Binah] the “Third Logos,” “Shiva,” my real Being, my own “Super-individuality,” Samael Himself...

Then, the Blessed One assumed a distinct figure, different from my own figure, as if He were a stranger. He had the aspect of a very respectable gentleman...

The Venerable One asked me to perform a chiromantic study on the lines of His hand...

The line of Saturn on His omnipotent dexterous hand looked very straight, astonishing, and marvellous to me.

Nonetheless, one place of the line appeared to me as if it was interrupted, damaged, broken...

“Sir! You have had some struggles, some sufferings...”

“You are mistaken. I am a very lucky man, I always do very well...”

“Well... What happens is that I see a small damage on the line of Saturn...”

“Go, and measure that line well: at what age do you see that damage?”

“Sir!... Between the age of fifty three (53) and sixty-one (61) you had a hard epoch...”

“Ah!... that is in the beginning... but, then after, how do you see it? Eight years will pass very soon, and then... the triumph which is awaiting you...”

When concluding with this study, the Venerable One stood and said: “I like these Chiromantic studies, but only sporadically. My spouse (Devi Kundalini) also likes it, and eventually I will bring her. Ah!, but I have to pay you for your labor. Wait here for me, I will return to pay you...”

The Blessed One withdrew and I remained waiting for Him... Far away, I saw two daughters of mine; they are presently adults, however they still looked little to me. I was a little bit concerned about them and so I called them...

It is indubitable that in that time of my present existence I was the mentioned fifty-three (53) years of age... I had seen on the hand of the Blessed One my own future...

Evidently, the already granted Eight Initiations [of the First Mountain] had to be qualified, which is a very hard job, one year for each Initiation...

This is what it is to vividly experience the whole book of the Patriarch Job in eight years, to pay the tithe to Neptune before the Resurrection...

The book of Job is a complete representation of the ancient initiation and of the people who presided over the “magna ceremony.”

The neophyte is shown in this book. He is deprived of everything, even of his own sons, and is afflicted by [kamaduro] an impure sickness.

His wife anguishes him by mocking the trust which he puts in a God who treats him in such a way. His three friends Eliphas, Bildad, and Zophar torment him when they believably judge him to be impious and certainly worthy of that punishment...

Job then calls for a champion, a liberator, because he knows that this Shiva is eternal, and will redeem him from the slavery of the Earth (by means of the intimate Resurrection) by restoring his flesh [physical body].

Job, while under divine permission, is tormented, deprived, sick under the cruel action of those malignant beings that Aristophanes called the “black birds.” Saint Paul called them the “black powers of the air.” The church called them “demons.” Theosophy and Kabbalah calls them “elementaries,” etc., etc., etc...

Nonetheless, Job is just, and he utters the theme of his own justification before such rigors of destiny, and finally conquers with the sacred IT of the crucifixion of his ulcerated flesh. Jehovah (the interior BINAH Iod-Heve of each person) permits the Healer Angels, or Jinns (whose classic leader, as found in books such as the book of Tobias, is the Archangel Raphael), to approach him...

One night, after a cosmic festivity which was celebrated in my honour for having been well qualified in the First Initiation, I was precisely instructed...

“You must pay the crime for having assassinated the God Mercury,” was said unto me...
“Forgive me this Karma...”

“This Karma is unforgivable [kamaduro], and can only be paid by working with the Moon.”

Then, I saw how in each labor the Moon [Parvati] would more and more approach the planet Mercury, until finally mixing with it...


Parvata is one of the Sanskrit words for "mountain"; "Parvati" derives her name from being the daughter of king Himavan (also called Himavat, Parvat) and mother Mena. King Parvat (Shiva-Binah) is considered lord of the mountains and the personification of the Himalayas; Parvati implies "she of the mountain" A crescent moon "symbol of Intelligence - Binah" is sometimes included near the head of Parvati.



My innermost real Being, the God Mercury, Shiva, [Binah] my Monad, while approaching me, told me, “You must wear the boots of the God Mercury.” He then put such boots on my
feet...

The instant in which the great Hierophant of the temple showed me a sports hall was sensational and extraordinary for me...

“Look!” he told me, “You converted the Temple of Mercury into a sports hall...”

Certainly, we all assassinated Hiram (the God Mercury) when we ate of the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden. That is why we were warned: “The day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

Posteriorly, the path became frightfully difficult, and I had to suffer intensely...

It is obvious that the path of the razor’s edge is absolutely sexual; you know this...

“My son! You have to patiently suffer the consequences of your errors,” my Divine Mother Kundalini uttered...

On another night, my Mother, filled with pain, exclaimed with a great voice, “My son! You have exchanged me for other women, there, in the physical world...”

“That was the past, Mother of mine, now I do not exchange you for anyone...”

“You have exchanged me for other women.”

“The past is the past, what matters is the present; I live from instant to instant, and I do wrong when arguing with you...”

“Past, present, or future, you are the same one...”

“You are right, Mother of mine...”

Then, how could I deny that I had converted the Temple of Mercury [Binah] into a sport hall? - The Three Mountains by Samael Aun Weor


Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that Jehovah Elohim made the earth and the heavens,
And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for Jehovah Elohim had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

And [in the Eighth Day] Jehovah Elohim formed Adam of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and Adam became a living soul.

And Jehovah Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put Adam whom he had formed. - Genesis 2: 1-8

Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5

In your response is mentioned the idea of working with the moon. meaning in meditation? Sexually practice? Both? Something else entirely?

Thank you much for your response. It is profound that which you share, and its kind of you to send it my way. I am not totally sure if I myself have acquired kamaduro but if it is so and that eventually will have to pay it, it is comforting to hear at least that a great master like Samael endured in order to pay.
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