Was mary betrothed to a man named iohanan, but instead was raped by Joseph pandir? Was joseph an initiate like it says in the virgin of carmel book, or was he a roman soldier? Was jesus physically born of white tantra, or was mary raped? Was mary a chaste vestial virgin? Where does this raped story come from? In the virgin of carmel book it states the immaculate ritual purity of Mary, but in the major mysteries book it states that mary was raped and jesus came from this mannor of union. Please explain.
Accepted Answer
“The four Gospels are intimately related with the magisterium of fire. It is absurd to interpret the four Gospels literally. The Gospels are completely symbolic.” - Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect Matrimony
Mary מרים Miriam: the raw matter of the great work
Johannan יוחנן: “One who is a gift from God,” which is the Word, Christ.
Joseph יוסף IO-Seph, IO-Cephas: “which is by interpretation, a stone,” the stone of IO, Yesod.
So, this is alchemical, not literal.
When “Mary” wants to (alchemically) marry “Johannan,” first she has to descend to Yesod, the ninth sphere, sex, and marry “Joseph” since it is through Cephas that Mary, the raw matter of the great work, is sublimated, raised (מרים), reevaluated (לייסף).
Joseph Pandir or Panther, an initiate or soldier of the Romae (Amore), refers to the panther's skin of Dionysus, from where Jesus got the name “Jesus Ben Panther," that is, the son of a tiger knight, a soldier of Panther – a two syllable word composed of Pan and Theos, and which means the pantheon of all the gods or parts of the Being of all initiates. So, the panther's skin represents the raiments or attributes, of all the parts of our individual Being, or Inner God, with which Yeshuah, the "Child of Chokmah, the Child of God," or the highest part of our Inner Israel, was predestined to be bestowed.
The rape of Mary by Joseph Pandir is the same rape of Persephone, a classical mythological subject, depicting the abduction of the raw matter of the great work by the bestial egotistical forces that we have to confront.
The physical crucifixion of Jesus actually happened, yet in esotericism the crucifixion always had an alchemical spiritual signification, and it is to the alchemical spiritual significance that the birth of Christ refers to, not to the birth of his tridimensional physical body that modern theologians refer to.
This alchemical wedding of the soul with the spirit which is very well known in Pantheism, is very well embodied in the crucifixion of Jesus. God is within all creatures and develops all of his parts through the purification of INRI, the fire, which is Christ. Any Monad that longs for mastery has to pass through the alchemical crucifixion of the raw matter of the great work.
INRI = Ignis Natura Renovatur Integra
The fire renews nature integrally
Mary מרים Miriam: the raw matter of the great work
Johannan יוחנן: “One who is a gift from God,” which is the Word, Christ.
Joseph יוסף IO-Seph, IO-Cephas: “which is by interpretation, a stone,” the stone of IO, Yesod.
So, this is alchemical, not literal.
When “Mary” wants to (alchemically) marry “Johannan,” first she has to descend to Yesod, the ninth sphere, sex, and marry “Joseph” since it is through Cephas that Mary, the raw matter of the great work, is sublimated, raised (מרים), reevaluated (לייסף).
Joseph Pandir or Panther, an initiate or soldier of the Romae (Amore), refers to the panther's skin of Dionysus, from where Jesus got the name “Jesus Ben Panther," that is, the son of a tiger knight, a soldier of Panther – a two syllable word composed of Pan and Theos, and which means the pantheon of all the gods or parts of the Being of all initiates. So, the panther's skin represents the raiments or attributes, of all the parts of our individual Being, or Inner God, with which Yeshuah, the "Child of Chokmah, the Child of God," or the highest part of our Inner Israel, was predestined to be bestowed.
The rape of Mary by Joseph Pandir is the same rape of Persephone, a classical mythological subject, depicting the abduction of the raw matter of the great work by the bestial egotistical forces that we have to confront.
The physical crucifixion of Jesus actually happened, yet in esotericism the crucifixion always had an alchemical spiritual signification, and it is to the alchemical spiritual significance that the birth of Christ refers to, not to the birth of his tridimensional physical body that modern theologians refer to.
This alchemical wedding of the soul with the spirit which is very well known in Pantheism, is very well embodied in the crucifixion of Jesus. God is within all creatures and develops all of his parts through the purification of INRI, the fire, which is Christ. Any Monad that longs for mastery has to pass through the alchemical crucifixion of the raw matter of the great work.
INRI = Ignis Natura Renovatur Integra
The fire renews nature integrally
Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5
Accepted Answer
“The four Gospels are intimately related with the magisterium of fire. It is absurd to interpret the four Gospels literally. The Gospels are completely symbolic.” - Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect Matrimony
Mary מרים Miriam: the raw matter of the great work
Johannan יוחנן: “One who is a gift from God,” which is the Word, Christ.
Joseph יוסף IO-Seph, IO-Cephas: “which is by interpretation, a stone,” the stone of IO, Yesod.
So, this is alchemical, not literal.
When “Mary” wants to (alchemically) marry “Johannan,” first she has to descend to Yesod, the ninth sphere, sex, and marry “Joseph” since it is through Cephas that Mary, the raw matter of the great work, is sublimated, raised (מרים), reevaluated (לייסף).
Joseph Pandir or Panther, an initiate or soldier of the Romae (Amore), refers to the panther's skin of Dionysus, from where Jesus got the name “Jesus Ben Panther," that is, the son of a tiger knight, a soldier of Panther – a two syllable word composed of Pan and Theos, and which means the pantheon of all the gods or parts of the Being of all initiates. So, the panther's skin represents the raiments or attributes, of all the parts of our individual Being, or Inner God, with which Yeshuah, the "Child of Chokmah, the Child of God," or the highest part of our Inner Israel, was predestined to be bestowed.
The rape of Mary by Joseph Pandir is the same rape of Persephone, a classical mythological subject, depicting the abduction of the raw matter of the great work by the bestial egotistical forces that we have to confront.
The physical crucifixion of Jesus actually happened, yet in esotericism the crucifixion always had an alchemical spiritual signification, and it is to the alchemical spiritual significance that the birth of Christ refers to, not to the birth of his tridimensional physical body that modern theologians refer to.
This alchemical wedding of the soul with the spirit which is very well known in Pantheism, is very well embodied in the crucifixion of Jesus. God is within all creatures and develops all of his parts through the purification of INRI, the fire, which is Christ. Any Monad that longs for mastery has to pass through the alchemical crucifixion of the raw matter of the great work.
INRI = Ignis Natura Renovatur Integra
The fire renews nature integrally
Mary מרים Miriam: the raw matter of the great work
Johannan יוחנן: “One who is a gift from God,” which is the Word, Christ.
Joseph יוסף IO-Seph, IO-Cephas: “which is by interpretation, a stone,” the stone of IO, Yesod.
So, this is alchemical, not literal.
When “Mary” wants to (alchemically) marry “Johannan,” first she has to descend to Yesod, the ninth sphere, sex, and marry “Joseph” since it is through Cephas that Mary, the raw matter of the great work, is sublimated, raised (מרים), reevaluated (לייסף).
Joseph Pandir or Panther, an initiate or soldier of the Romae (Amore), refers to the panther's skin of Dionysus, from where Jesus got the name “Jesus Ben Panther," that is, the son of a tiger knight, a soldier of Panther – a two syllable word composed of Pan and Theos, and which means the pantheon of all the gods or parts of the Being of all initiates. So, the panther's skin represents the raiments or attributes, of all the parts of our individual Being, or Inner God, with which Yeshuah, the "Child of Chokmah, the Child of God," or the highest part of our Inner Israel, was predestined to be bestowed.
The rape of Mary by Joseph Pandir is the same rape of Persephone, a classical mythological subject, depicting the abduction of the raw matter of the great work by the bestial egotistical forces that we have to confront.
The physical crucifixion of Jesus actually happened, yet in esotericism the crucifixion always had an alchemical spiritual signification, and it is to the alchemical spiritual significance that the birth of Christ refers to, not to the birth of his tridimensional physical body that modern theologians refer to.
This alchemical wedding of the soul with the spirit which is very well known in Pantheism, is very well embodied in the crucifixion of Jesus. God is within all creatures and develops all of his parts through the purification of INRI, the fire, which is Christ. Any Monad that longs for mastery has to pass through the alchemical crucifixion of the raw matter of the great work.
INRI = Ignis Natura Renovatur Integra
The fire renews nature integrally
Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5
So the gospels are completely symbolic? Do you know where master sAmuel has written about the historical litteral mary? The virgin of carmel seems to be litteral historical account of Mary. I also wish to read more about the litteral jesus. How does one determine what happened literally and what is purely symbolic in the lives of Jesus and Mary?
“Only with the faculties of objective clairvoyance can we study the life of Jesus in the Akashic Records of Nature. The Akasha is a subtle agent that penetrates and permeates the whole space. All the events of the Earth and its races, the life of Jesus etc., are depicted as an eternal and living film within the Akasha. This medium even permeates the air. Radio-television science will have instruments adequate enough to see the Akashic records at the end of this century. Then, people will study the personal life of the hierophant Jesus with this equipment.”
Samael Aun Weor, The Perfect Matrimony
Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah,
the Root of David, has prevailed to open the book,
and to loose the seven seals thereof. - Revelation 5: 5
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