Thursday, 12 April 2012
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This image is from the Gnostic Radio audo lecture entitled "Matter, Energy and consciousness".

It is the last image of the series. It can be viewed here: http://gnosticradio.org/components/com_mtree/img/listings/m/666.jpg

http://gnosticradio.org/components/com_mtree/img/listings/m/666.jpg

Now I require a simple answer in order to clarify my understanding (mind you, I am also studying the book on Klipoth). The question is:

Does our ascent, as represented in that image, correspond to the work that we do in the spheres of Klipoth?

So we descend to the spheres of Venus, Mars, Jupiter and so forth, and eliminate our lust, anger, mystical pride and materialism, etc. Do we correspondingly and exactly transfer the consciousness that is stored in Klipoth to these superior spheres? And it is possible to have all of these spheres consciously activated one hundred percent without creating the solar bodies? (Meaning, is it possible to have completely eliminated the ego" refers to psychological defects" target="_parent" >ego and have all of that consciousness residing in the superior spheres of the tree of life, without having the solar bodies created?)

I am a bit confused to as to where the solar bodies come in and what relation they have to the elimination of the ego" refers to psychological defects" target="_parent" >ego. It is said that we can eliminate up to 50% of the ego" refers to psychological defects" target="_parent" >ego without a spouse, but we need the fire of a spouse in order to delete the whole ego" refers to psychological defects" target="_parent" >ego. That's fine - so that's clarified, I know that I need a spouse to completely destroy the ego" refers to psychological defects" target="_parent" >ego. But technically, is it possible for the entire ego" refers to psychological defects" target="_parent" >ego to be annihilated and the solar bodies still do not exist? Or is this process unavoidable, it unfolds, in succession, as the ego" refers to psychological defects" target="_parent" >ego is being destroyed?

Thank you.
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10 years ago
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#1030
Accepted Answer
The ego is related to the Lunar Bodies, which belong to nature. Nature will take them back. Thus, in order to be free of the mechanical processes of nature, we need vehicles that belong to a superior level.

Here are some quotes from Tarot and Kabbalah related to this:

"To incarnate the Being, the Divine Triad, is something that is very difficult; to accomplish this, the building of the Solar Bodies is necessary. Without having the Solar Bodies built, if the Being was incarnated, this would produce an electric shock that could not be tolerated and one would die. The building of the Solar Bodies is vital."


"It is logical that whosoever does not possess the Solar Bodies is dressed with the Lunar Bodies, which are cold, spectral, diabolic, and tenebrous bodies."


"In order to become Immortal, the possession of the Solar Bodies is necessary."


"In order to incarnate the Real Being, one must build the Solar Bodies by means of the transmutation of the Hydrogen SI-12. Thus we convert ourselves into true Human Beings. However, when reaching this state, one must dissolve the ego in order to not be converted into a Hasnamuss with a double center of gravity, like for example, Andrameleck."


"It is not possible to put new wine (The Intimate Christ) into an old flask (The Lunar Bodies). It is necessary to build the Solar Bodies in order to accommodate this sacred wine."


I suggest you read this book, and also The Three Mountains. These two books explain just how much work there is to do.

Nevertheless, as much work as there is to do, the one who needs it done is the Innermost, who will provide his warrior with the needed weapons and tools.
10 years ago
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#1030
Accepted Answer
The ego is related to the Lunar Bodies, which belong to nature. Nature will take them back. Thus, in order to be free of the mechanical processes of nature, we need vehicles that belong to a superior level.

Here are some quotes from Tarot and Kabbalah related to this:

"To incarnate the Being, the Divine Triad, is something that is very difficult; to accomplish this, the building of the Solar Bodies is necessary. Without having the Solar Bodies built, if the Being was incarnated, this would produce an electric shock that could not be tolerated and one would die. The building of the Solar Bodies is vital."


"It is logical that whosoever does not possess the Solar Bodies is dressed with the Lunar Bodies, which are cold, spectral, diabolic, and tenebrous bodies."


"In order to become Immortal, the possession of the Solar Bodies is necessary."


"In order to incarnate the Real Being, one must build the Solar Bodies by means of the transmutation of the Hydrogen SI-12. Thus we convert ourselves into true Human Beings. However, when reaching this state, one must dissolve the ego in order to not be converted into a Hasnamuss with a double center of gravity, like for example, Andrameleck."


"It is not possible to put new wine (The Intimate Christ) into an old flask (The Lunar Bodies). It is necessary to build the Solar Bodies in order to accommodate this sacred wine."


I suggest you read this book, and also The Three Mountains. These two books explain just how much work there is to do.

Nevertheless, as much work as there is to do, the one who needs it done is the Innermost, who will provide his warrior with the needed weapons and tools.
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